Shall We Talk About Death Or Sex?

I probably talk or think about death more often than others.

I don’t talk about sex as much as I do death, but is that a problem when entering the autumn years of your life?

Many people I know don’t like talking about death. Do you? Many don’t enjoy discussing sex but is it easier to talk about than death?

Is it odd or natural to think and talk about death and sex simultaneously? You tell me.

Once upon a time, sex was a subject people didn’t like talking about. I’m going back to my early years here when sex was a hush-hush subject, almost taboo.

There was little information available about sex while I was growing up. The reaction I once got from my elders when I asked, ‘Where do babies come from? Because I know the stork doesn’t bring them?‘ was like watching the faces of those watching the gory scene in a horror movie. ‘Is it something about a man and a woman solving a puzzle?‘ I went on to ask.

When I asked those questions, I got looks of shock, horror and embarrassment. My grandmother walked out of the room while my mother and father tried to change the subject quickly.

Lockdown talk

During the lockdown, my partner and I talked about death. But it was only while updating our wills. We couldn’t get past the point where we would talk about our deaths and what we wanted to happen when that time came. ‘We’ll talk about that another day,’ I told myself, yet death can come to any of us anytime. Can you imagine the problems we cause by not talking to each other about death?

Although nobody likes talking about death, we read, write and watch it happening in books, on television, in theatres and in cinemas. It seems natural when reading, writing or watching it, but when talking about our deaths or the death of somebody we know, there comes the point where I hope somebody else will take the lead, and the subject will quickly change.

Why am I talking about death?

I have written about death here, but the truth is that what I call the other side of death (where the person dying is not me) is approaching; it becomes a subject we can’t avoid. I have an aunt who is nearing the end of her life.

At 95, some say my aunt has had an excellent innings. She loved life, but she wouldn’t like the life she’s living now. I think I followed her for the love she had for life. However, she has spent what is left of her life in a hospital bed for the last three months. Her final words to me before she went into a deep sleep were, ‘I want to go home.’

I can relate to how she feels. Whenever I have been ill and not at home, I’ve always wanted to go home. If we allow it, being in familiar surroundings can help. Well, it always works for me. But does it help as we near our final days?

As she faded in and out of consciousness, my aunt reacted to some voices in her hospital room yet ignored others. I wondered if she could choose which voices she wanted to respond to and which she chose to ignore. Does she have any control over what she hears while her life slips away?

Why do some people die quicker than others?

Truth be known, I wouldn’t say I like watching my aunt’s death being so drawn out. The family all agree that she’d hate to be at the point she is – having to live through the drawing-out of the last days of her life in a deep sleep in a hospital bed. ‘There’s nothing else we can do for her except keep her comfortable,’ the medical staff tell us. ‘But keep talking to her because hearing is the last sense to go.

Really? Is hearing the last sense of the dying? How can they possibly know? Have some of these staff members lived previous lives, or has somebody who has left this world told them that’s what happens? It seems odd to say. I can not work out how they know.

When my father died in October 2020, his death was swift. He died within 24 hours of being taken ill. There were no weeks of being unconscious in a hospital bed. Yet when my mother died in September 2015, she took many weeks to die after we were told there was nothing else they could do. Why do some people die quickly, yet others seem to take weeks, months or years to pass?

Are those who have long-drawn-out deaths having to pay for what they may have done during their lives, or is there something or someone who has overall control over how long it takes for us to die? Do some linger because there is some unsettled business to attend to, or do we have no power over how long it takes to take that final breath?

Where do we go just before we die?

Years ago, I believed there was a waiting room we entered when dying. We sat there waiting for our name to be called before going through another door that took us on our next journey. Some remained longer in that waiting room than others. But while we wait, we are occasionally permitted to briefly go back through the first door to check what is happening in the world we are leaving. Perhaps we’re not quite ready to go because we’re waiting for somebody to come and say goodbye?

I’ve often asked myself why my mother took so long to pass away. Did she not want to go, or was she told she had to wait her turn? In life, we queue. Do we have to queue to die?

When we die, are we leaving behind those still alive, or do the living leave us behind?

I probably talk or think about death more often than others. Many people I know don’t like talking about it. How often do you talk about death?

Perhaps I should have talked more about sex? But would anyone have wanted to discuss it with me?

What are your thoughts on why we dislike discussing death or sex?

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104 responses to “Shall We Talk About Death Or Sex?”

  1. Robert J Jr. avatar

    I think death is such a natural part of life there should be more conversations about it. Culture and family dynamics definately play a part how/when or if most people would talk. Also I think society’s idea is mostly pointed to youthfulness and shuns elderly and aged so folks are not ready when death comes.

    As to conversations about sex, again society, religion, family, culture play a huge factor in this. Being a gay man myself, there culture never talks about it but will quickly say “be safe”! There was not a family talk, a faith talk, a father/son talk.

    1. Hugh W. Roberts avatar

      Thanks for your thoughts on these subjects, Robert.

      I agree that culture and faith play significant parts in what discussions take place at home. I hope one day, all cultures will talk openly about same-sex relationships and accept them as part of the world.

  2. James L avatar

    Call me a prude, but there is still something about sex talk that makes me uncomfortable – especially from strangers.

    I used to follow a blog, but he changed his niche to talk about sex, and I unfollowed him, I guess because I lost interest in being so explicit about something so private, but also because I didn’t want someone looking over my shoulder seeing a blog post titled “A**l sex: Great or a pain in the butt?” from my WordPress reader! (see that’s an example of how reserved I am that I can’t even write the word!)

    I’m probably a rarity but even my close male friends don’t talk about sex – they don’t brag about, talk about having it, or even express desires making sexual comments about attractive people!

    My wife often comes home from work sharing explicit details of her colleagues sex lives – I’ve said if she ever goes into such detail about ours, I’d divorce her! 😂

    Regarding death, I’m more open to talking about it, and accepting of it, which perhaps makes me a bit too remorseful if I feel like I’m wasting time, and wasting my limited life away.

    Although saying that my wife and I have discussed getting a will for a while, yet kept putting it off, perhaps it’s our age (late thirties) where we don’t want to think the worst could happen sooner than we think, but it’s probably something we should pursue, at least for the security of our kids.

    I’ve heard the “hearing is the last thing to go” as well Hugh, and I had the same thought as you. Before my grandad died, he fell into a vegitative state for 24 hours – it was hard seeing him like that, but I just said thanks to him for everything he had done and giving me the opportunity at life.

    It was only when leaving, assuming the hearing thing is true I wondered if I’d actually talked loud enough or if I was just muttering, and would he have heard this death bed profession of love!

    1. Hugh W. Roberts avatar

      Thanks for joining the discussion, James.

      It’s interesting what you say that your mates do not discuss the subject of sex but that your wife comes home with tales of what goes on behind the bedroom door of some of her work colleagues.

      When working, I’d often go on nights out with my male work colleagues, and I’d be shocked at some of the disgusting comments about sex they’d direct at women. I often just wanted the floor to open up and swallow me when I heard some of what they said. Of course, it was usually too much alcohol that was the problem, but some of them would tell me about affairs they were having and what went on behind hotel bedroom doors. When I asked why they were telling me, they’d reply because I was gay and, therefore, would not tell anyone. That’s always been a mystery to me.

      In my early teens, I remember how my mates would brag about who they had slept with and who they wanted to sleep with. I never knew if what they were saying was true.

      Even at a young age, I’d recommend you and your wife do wills. Having lived through the awful experience of my mother and stepfather not having wills, I saw a horrible side to my family when my mother passed away. It’s something I’d not want to wish on anyone.

      Unless I see or hear proof that hearing is the last sense to go as somebody passes away, the jury is out on that subject. However, I have no problem with people feeling comfortable that it’s what actually happens. After all, I took what the medical staff looking after my aunt said and continue to talk to her when I visit her.

  3. Terri Webster Schrandt avatar

    Wow, where to start, Hugh? I could write volumes on death, but since I’m tapping letters into my phone I will be brief. Both topics are worth talking about.

    Death is a difficult topic because we know little about it. You mentioned your father’s quick passage into eternity and your mother’s slower one. We’ll never really know the why, but I can tell you I sat with my mom on her last two days and witnessed her reaching out to her grandfather and calling his name in her semi conscious state. Like one foot here and one in eternity. As I talked to her a little later, she suddenly opened her eyes, looked right at me and told me she loved me…”Terri, I love you.” That was a gift from God and closure I needed to move on.

    When she passed away at 3am two days later, I was back at home but I felt her pass. I had woken up to use the bathroom I said out loud to myself that I can’t feel her anymore. At 6:30 that morning, my brother called to say she had passed at that very time.

    So much for brief 🙄 An intriguing set of topics and this post will keep you busy with comments, Hugh. Enjoy the rest of your week!

    1. Hugh W. Roberts avatar

      I wonder if knowing how death occurs, what it can look like, and what happens when we witness it in person, we know all that there is to know about it, Terri? Of course, there is what if anything happens after death, but we will never know unless we come back and remember what happened. Some claim to have done so, but I’ve never heard the same version of what happenes, although walking towards a bright light seems to be the popular take.

      I was also with my mother when she passed, but she never spoke during the last week of her life. However, shortly before she passed, she opened her eyes, looked up at me and smiled. She died of senile dementia and didn’t know who I was for the last few years of her life. However, I had an overwhelming sense that she knew who I was at that moment.

      Thank you for sharing your experience and for also joining the discussion.

      1. Terri Webster Schrandt avatar

        I would wager your mom knew exactly who you were at that moment , Hugh. How wonderful!

  4. Michelle - mybijoulife avatar

    I’m not particularly uncomfortable with either subject, although sex is way more fun to discuss than death.

    I’ve been present at the deaths of all 4 grandparents and my dad. The men spent the least time suffering. My dad unexpectedly died and the entire process (for him) lasted about 10 minutes. His father was about 48 hours. My maternal grandfather was about 10 days. My two grandmothers suffered for months. I would hypothesize that any difference – if it does exist as my experience is purely anecdotal – has something to do with the biology of gender. What I have learned with these experiences is that losing someone just sucks. There is no philosophical perspective that makes it more palatable – and I’ve tried out many of the non-religious ones.

    As for sex, it’s a very enjoyable biological function. :D

    Michelle

    1. Hugh W. Roberts avatar

      I wonder if that is true about men taking less time to die than women, Michelle? I’ve never thought about it like that, but I know that my grandmother from my mother’s side also had a long-drawn-out death, whereas my grandfather had a quick death. My aunt’s husband (my uncle) died a few years ago, and his death lasted a couple of days, but nothing like the length of time it is taking my aunt to pass.

      Thanks for chipping in about sex, too. I’ve not had much to discuss on that subject, so your one-line comment on it was welcomed.

  5. wrookieschu avatar

    I would probably be more comfortable talking about death than sex, how strange. Maybe as I’m a nurse and see death more than others…

    1. Hugh W. Roberts avatar

      That’s a good point with being a nurse, Wayne. My nephew is also a nurse and has no problem discussing death.

      1. wrookieschu avatar

        Sex on the other hand…I still get embarrassed. No idea why.

        1. Hugh W. Roberts avatar

          Perhaps because it’s such a personal thing? But then again, so is buying a pair of shoes or a shirt.

          1. wrookieschu avatar

            Hmmm yeah maybe 🤣

  6. petespringerauthor avatar
    petespringerauthor

    I think society has a more challenging time dealing with death than sex. I’ve been volunteering in an assisted living facility, reading to some of the residents for the past few months. Some of them have seemingly no one who comes to visit them. The treatment of the elderly in our society is shameful.

    1. Hugh W. Roberts avatar

      I saw the same thing when my mother was in a care home, Pete. Some residents had to rely on charity donations for clothes, as nobody came to visit them. I’d always make a point of talking to them when I visited my mother.

  7. Aimer Boyz avatar
    Aimer Boyz

    I think about death a lot. I can’t imagine ever being ready for the lights to go out, for me to stop existing. It’s inevitable, of course, and natural, but I hate it.

    Lingering deaths are hard on family and friends, and I’m sure you’re right about your aunt not wanting her life to end this way, not that we have much choice in the matter. Your experience reminds me of a comment my mother’s doctor made when delivering her stage 4 cancer diagnosis, “You heart is good, unfortunately.”

    1. Hugh W. Roberts avatar

      Yes, the thought of dying and not living the life I love is horrible for me, too, Aimer. But I live in the hope that there is something just as good on the other page.

      I can only believe my aunt’s heart is strong, given how long she has lasted without liquids and food. I can’t imagine why she is fighting (if she is), but maybe she has to wait her turn? In any case, I know she’d hate having to stay the way she is.

      1. Aimer Boyz avatar
        Aimer Boyz

        I wish your aunt, and your family, a peaceful end to her journey :)

  8. Janet Gogerty avatar
    Janet Gogerty

    You raise lots of interesting points, yes I always wonder how anyone knows they can still hear. My daughter is convinced my husband died the one night nobody else in the family could be there with me. When he was still with it he said I better get ready to let him go as he didn’t think he was long for this world. He didn’t seem at all worried! It happened when the night nurse, who I had never met, had only arrived half an hour before and she told me to keep talking, I couldn’t think what to say with a stranger hovering at my shoulder so I rather hope he couldn’t hear. When he died it was just like he had switched himself off and I thought how clever he was.

    1. Hugh W. Roberts avatar

      Your daughter’s take on your husband’s death is interesting, Janet. Maybe he did not want a fuss or many people standing around his bed while he passed? It’s an interesting thought that we could have some control over our deaths.

      I’ve sat at my aunt’s hospital bed and talked to her while medical staff are in the room. It’s tough, isn’t it, knowing what to say when other people are in the room? It takes me back to my mother’s death when my sister could not make it in time to get to see her. I rang my sister and put my mobile phone on my mother’s pillow while my sister said her goodbyes to her. Shortly after, my mother passed away.

      Thank you for joining the discussion.

  9. JT Twissel avatar

    I think about death a lot too, Hugh. I’ve even had a near death experience. I think it’s a transition like anything else. It’s best to be prepared and accepting. When my mother passed away (also in 2020) I played music from her youth and read her poems. Sex? What’s that? I’m way too old to even remember!

    1. Hugh W. Roberts avatar

      Have you written about your near-death experience, Jan? It’s something I’d be interested in knowing more about.

      1. JT Twissel avatar

        I could try – it was a feeling of great comfort. As if crossing the finish line after a long race and being greeted by loved ones.

        1. Hugh W. Roberts avatar

          What a lovely way to sum life up. If that is what happens, I’m looking forward to it.

  10. Ritu avatar

    Sex was always going to be taboo, given my culture, however my brother lives life on a different plane, so where I would be embarrassed, he would go full tilt, once he was a teenager, even asking Pops if mum and him still did ‘it’! 🙈 (answer was “We are human, you know!” Classic Pops!) And asking whether my.woukd prefer his style of underpants for Pops, as they were more easy access! 😳
    As a result, I try to be more open with my two. It only helps. Sex itself isn’t taboo, and if we normal use certain elements of conversation, it becomes less of a thing to do asap… If you know what I mean.
    As for death, we seem to be good at talking about it in my family. Mine is a huge family so birtgs, marriages and deaths occur with great frequency.
    Pops has a great philosophy on death, and is very accepting, whereas mum.and I are more emotional. Still, we talk, because death and taxes… Well, we all know both are inevitable.
    It’s Mum’s favourite phrase recently… “I’m not being morbid, but…” As she wants to discuss what might happen when her time comes.
    It’s hard, but both subjects need an element of normalisation to happen, but both are emotional topics.
    😊

    1. Hugh W. Roberts avatar

      I hope you don’t mind me saying this, Ritu, but your brother reminds me of the stereotyping many straight men have about sex. It’s probably a subject I hear them talk about a lot more when I have been in their company, so perhaps they don’t mind talking and discussing it as much as the rest of us do.

      I’m glad you’re open with your children about sex, although I know many children find talking about the issue embarrassing when it comes to talking about it with their parents. I don’t remember any talk from my parents about sex education. In my days, it seemed more about finding out for yourselves. There was some sex education in my later years at school, but nothing about same-sex relationships. Again, that was more about having to find out for yourself.

      As we grow older, death becomes much more evident and affects us personally. I say to my partner, ‘we know how much death affects us by the number of Christmas cards we have to buy every year.’ Of course, the number we buy dwindles every year.

      Thank you for adding your thoughts and for joining the discussion.

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